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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Apr 24, 2011 8:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dylan Submits to Censorship in China

Nice post . Too many , especially in the journalistic profession , still think of him as a "protest singer," it's as if the only have heard "his 2nd , and 3rd albums [Freewheeling, and The Times They...). And ignore his output of the past 40 years are so . I do though, think he sometimes goes out of his way to flip the bird to whatever integrity we put upon him. His music in commercials, himself in commercials ( "Victoria's Secret " ). Etc.
It would be like him, to outwardly kao-tow to the Chinese authorities , and then subversively stick it to them, as you suggest , with the songs he did play.

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Poster: olympiaroad Date: Apr 24, 2011 8:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dylan Submits to Censorship in China

Honestly, I don't think he's interested in sticking it to anybody. By all accounts, he seems to be a quiet, polite, reserved guy. There's only been one book written by a former bandmember, (Winston Watson) and that pretty much stands alone as the only example of someone who's worked with him professionally speaking about the experience. (I haven't read it but I don't believe it's a harsh treatment.)

I have to assume, based on what I know about him, that he went into China as a respectful guest of their country. For him to purposely tweak them in any way would have been out of character.

Incidentally, people who want to "protest" China can easily do it themselves by refusing to purchase cheap-ass, lead-paint containing products from that place. Do you know when you buy fish at your local supermarket that originates from China, it most likely comes from a "fish farm" in someone's front yard? Recent strides toward individual involvement in capitalist activities have caused a rise in rank and file Chinese cultivating shrimp particularly in homemade pools. Shaws buys 'em and sells 'em cheap to the American working class. Working Man's Blues indeed. Yucky.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Apr 24, 2011 9:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dylan Submits to Censorship in China

One thing for sure about Dylan is that he defiantly does not want to be put in a box others have made for him . There is this great Rolling Stone interview with him , in the late 60's, in which the interviewers are apoplectic that he is not playing along with the "revolution" ..."How do you know that I'm not FOR the war " . I agree that his nature is rather not to make some sort of "big statement", but I can't believe he is unaware of the nature of the regime, and could not have been too happy to have to submit a set list for approval . So a little sly tweaking, as your examples suggest to me, would not seem too far out of order . BUT, I have given up trying to figure the man out . Anyone I know who has met him, almost to a man, has used the words "weird," "strange," "eccentric ," somewhere in their description of him . I just enjoy, or don't enjoy what he is doing musically . I salute you for still following his live shows, I gave up after seeing him 05 ( Merle Haggard opened for him ) , I have been following him and defending him since the dawn of the 70's, but he just was beyond where I could go, It just didn't make musical sense to me . I have heard that he still can be incredible , so who knows .